average regular republican take 20 issues, they'll be the same on 18, 19 issues, on taxes, spending, deficit, debt, health care, energy. it's been over tactics. these fights have been over tactics and strategy and what irks me is to see groups like the senate conservative fund attack conservative republican senators, not over their policy votes but because they disagreed with them on political tactics. now, there's no place for this, you know, purity in politics is the enemy of victory. and what we want is what you said a while ago. republicans want to take over the senate so we'd have the house and after next year the senate, we have to win six seats. we've got at least seven good shots. and for our guys and people like cruz to want to start big fights over tactics is a setback. let's focus on policy where people see the difference between us and obama. >> who leads the party to that conclusion, though? there hasn't been someone who has been able to. >> i think governors do. if you look at governor and is their records of success, whether it's scott walker, john kasich, rick perry from texa